Peugeot Malaysia launched a new model, Peugeot 207, that will compete with its closest rival Toyota Vios and Honda City. The price is RM72,888 on the road which is affordable with some extra features. The 1.6 engine is not as powerfull as Campro CPS but is estimated to give 6.1 litres per 100km fuel consumption of 207.
PUTRAJAYA: The mass market Peugeot 207 has joined the fray as the most affordable European-branded model in the local market.
The four-door sedan is selling at RM72,888 (on-the-road with insurance) and comes loaded with features for a value-for-money package.
Marketed as a B-segment car, the locally assembled 207 is roughly the size of a Honda City or Toyota Vios and is equipped with 1.6-litre engine with 110bhp and 149Nm of torque mated to a four-speed adaptive Tiptronic automatic transmission.
Fuel consumption is estimated at 6.1-litres per 100km under a mixed driving cycle.
Features include anti-lock braking system, electronic brake distribution, emergency brake assist, two smart airbags for the front passengers – which inflate in relation to the intensity of the impact – a rolling code immobiliser, “follow-me-home” functionality for the front headlights and auto-hazard warning lights which are activated upon sudden and heavy breaking.
Also included are two ISOFIX attachment points at the rear for child safety seats along with the front passenger airbag that can be deactivated to safely fit a child seat on the front passenger seat.
Other equipment include 15-inch wheels, premium audio capabilities with an MP3/WMA CD player with six speakers, USB support and Bluetooth mobile handsfree connectivity.
Nasim Sdn Bhd chief executive officer and Naza Group of Companies joint executive chairman S. M. Nasarudin S.M. Nasimuddin said the 207 is the first Peugeot to be produced in Malaysia that would be exported to other right-hand drive markets in Asean and also Sri Lanka.
“The 207 heads into an extremely competitive market currently dominated by Japanese makes. But we believe there is a current shift in the market towards European brands.
“Aimed at urban consumers and young families, the 207 is aesthetically appealing, generously equipped, safe and above all, an absolute delight to drive,” said Nasarudin.
Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad launched the 207.
Nasarudin said Nasim is targeting to sell between 5,000 and 6,000 units of the 207 next year with 30% of that volume to be exported to other right-hand drive countries such as Thailand, Brunei, Indonesia and Sri Lanka.
“Like its tagline, the 207 certainly is an irresistible car and is the beginning of a new strategy for Peugeot in Malaysia and the rest of the region and we believe we will be able to achieve our sales target,” said SM Nasarudin.
this car looks weird especially the rear and the roofline is not elegant.
it’s funny and weird to have auto-hazard warning lights which are activated upon sudden and heavy breaking. the car’s signal lights will keep blinking and it’s annoying
This is going to be the best car in its category. By the way, shape is something very relative. The first Twingo made by Renault had a weird shape and everyone critisized it will not be accepted. The Renault believed that people will adapt to it. Even the logo of the car was “for you to design a life which goes with Twingo”. This is what happened, it is now widely sold car, people just bought it in the start as it was different in shape, a non conformist approach. I believe there is a portion of Malaysians who want a different car, albeit suitable to their needs.
ben yap…i dont think u know how auto-hazard warning lights work……exora has this …and i dont think it’s annoying..
What about auto wiper and auto head light on sensor?? Which other car in this segment has this option??
each time under heavy braking or sudden braking and the both signal lights light up is weird and annoying just like how some car’s hazard lights comes up whenever they open their car door.
hazard lights is to warn people that the car is stationary. now it also to warn people of sudden braking… not to my taste and it turns me off.
Hazard light does not only intended to be used during stationary, it means for emergency such as car drive at slow speed due to any problem (empty fuel, broken car, etc) or need to send somebody ill to hospital.
So, the usage of hazard light under heavy braking is right as per it definition.
i agree
agreed with callenish.. better be warned before impact :)
Any news of test drive in Kuching?
My 207 was just delivered yesterday. It is fun to drive this car, the handling is superb and very comfortable. Don’t care about the shape. When I sit inside it, the experience overwhelm anything else. The engine is responsive and predictable. I can’t ask for more for the price is also very good with 5 year warranty thrown in
rite now waiting for my 207 to be delivered. hope to drive it by next week.
With apology to 207 fans. I booked a 308, although expensive but the space available was more suitable for me. It would be delivered on 31 January.
I get my pug207 already. Everything is in good shape. Now need to calculate the fuel consumption of this car, hopefully it gives me a good result.
Actually I tested drive the 308 also, although it is more spacious, I am very disappointed with the lack of power and response. The engine is only 1.6 but the car is 1,300kg. When going uphill it is panting for power. The car is surely underpowered. Body of this weight should be equipped with 2litre engine
usually car will response from the driving style. I am also felt the same for the first few kms. So i asked for longer test drive, after a while, the car seems started to response the way i want it to.
The Volkswagen Touran 1.4 7 seater MPV is huge and heavy at 1400kg but with turbocharger of course.Exora 1.6 is roughly the same weight only if it use 5-6 speed auto gearbox or CVT and torque is to increase from 150nm to 155nm…
Edy, I tested both 308 & 207 one after the other. And when climbing uphill the drag for 308 is most felt. It surely is underpowered. Otherwise i would have bought the 308. Comparatively the 308 does not response as fast as 207 due to the body weight. The inertia is greater, so it is not as responsive. It is not the driving style, but the car is really underpowered. Trust me!
I test drive 207. its nice. i am confused which one to select either 207 or myvi se which going to be launch on april. weng, how is the fuel consumption? did you calculate?
407 cantik juga.
My 207 was delivered on 20Jan. The first long trip was on CNY, way back to Kelate. Fuel consumption is very good. The ride is very comfortable and handling is superb. Nick, you simply cannot compare Japanese makes to European cars. It is simply beyond compare. Totally different motoring concept. If you see closely all European cars have simple styling but very elegant. The more you look at it, the more its beauty will appeal to you. Japanese makes change models every year with little facelift such as headlamp, tail light etc. The design of most Japanese makes is so cluttered and unrefined. The doors shake due to its softness on the inside.
FC stated in the brochure is 6.1L/100 km. However, the brochure didn’t mentioned specific type of fuel. Therefore it is more or less like this RM0.12/km for RON95, RM0.15/km for RON97. right now, My207 to run on RON95 with approximately RM0.15 – RM0.16/km. Trying to use the FC function on the 207 panel to monitor the FC and drive accordingly to reduce FC, but sometimes cannot help from stepping on gas pedal..haha..207 owner please share your FC info..
FC for my new 2011 308 is very good. Almost 13 KMS for a liter on 95 grade petrol. I drive very smoothly and the gear shift takes place almost each time at about 2000 tours/min. The drive quality is excellent. In reference to acceleration, I believe 207 has more acceleration as it is lighter. Ride quality is not only acceleration but other things too.
Wow..It appears that you really are enjoying the ride.. Great..
charge time nk service cam mane pulak?
anyone?
rasa cam minat plak 207 nk buat as my first car..selalu down payment kena letak bape..ade x zero % down payment?
tq
i sedang cari kereta baru. berkenan dengan mazda2. peugeot 207 pun nampak ok. mana satu yg patut i pilih. boleh beri cadangan….
Hanna, I rasa Peugeot tak dapat laa 0% down payment normally kena lah bagi 10%. Tapi interest dia rendah sangat…. only 2.7%. Mana ada kete jepun blh dpt interest rendah macam ni? Lagi satu, Nasim Sdn Bhd ada promotion 5 years free maintenance or 100,000km whichever comes first… kalau itu pun tak menarik minat lagi..hmm tak tau lah. Best thing awak pergi laa peugeot showroom, tanya semua dgn salesman, boleh test drive sekali on the spot
Ann… Kete jepun macamana pun dia punya feel lain macam… tak sama dgn kete omputih. Lagi laaa kalau bawa long distance, 207 mmg sedap seat dia pun tebal, foam dia padat. Kete jepun selalu seat nipis jalan jauh sakit punggung
Hi,
When I was driving my 207 without stepping on the pedal, can feel a sudden huge slow down due to gear shift around 30~40kmh.
Did you guys experience the same thing?
Hii Loh… How can anyone drive without stepping on the pedal. Of course the car will slow down and stop. We need POWER to keep the car moving
Hi Jimmi,
Just release pedal when the car already have the momentum or preparing to stop before traffic light or driving slow in housing area/car park.
You will feel the gear shift and drag the car speed about 10kph suddenly, just like you shift from 2nd to 1st gear and suddenly release the clutch on a manual gear
I don’t feel the drag like what you said. Maybe you can ask the salesman
Loh… I do feel the same..however not real sudden change. As I observed, 2nd gear will be shifted at about 25km/h, 3rd gear at 40km/h at 4th gear at 60km/h.. my problem however is the other way around.. if i were to stuck at traffic jam and have car in front, the car will only moving at 1st gear as the speed is less than 25km/h. I don’t have to explain how it feel driving at 1st gear while following others feels like rite…? Therefore, i usually change to tiptronic/snow mode.
One simple way to counter this issue is to shift to Neutral when you are about to stop at traffic lights
Hi,
Edy,
I will ask the engineers whether they are able to adjust the gear shift when I do my 1st inspection. Meanwhile, have to o the same like you.
Jimmi,
Do not recommend shift to Neutral especially when the car still moving. I am sure that you would know that in long run, you will increase wear and tear on transmission or the transmission will get heated up and lub oil characteristic changed or parts damaged. Also, not advisable to drive in Neutral for safety reason.
I’m thinking of getting the 207..feedback pls on fc? is it good?
Hello Syaz, I simply LOVE the 207. My wife also loves it. Driving it is sheer pleasure. It is elegant and nifty. Long distance drive is comfortable. For the price, I can’t ask for more. Now I see two more 207 near my housing area, one white, the other black. But the red one that I have looks better…
im considering about buying this model too…how about the spare parts??r they reasonably priced?
Hi chloe, spare parts a little more than japanese cars of course. But this model is has a 5 year free maintenance
Thanks Jimmi for the feedback..Is the car’s fuel consumption good?
Syaz, as the car is light (but not too light) the acceleration is superb, very responsive. Overtaking and going uphill is excellent
Also it has 4 speed Tiptronic Auto gearbox, not 3 speed as old models, so the fuel consumption is very good
Will 207 have new body kit?
I’m currently scouting for a new car. After reading the +ve reviews on the new 207, I think I’ve sort of made my mind up. Plus the price tag is just too good to resist. Move aside Vios & City.
Welcome to the club, Marina
At first, I was stucked at choosing 207 or fiesta or vios/city. Tested the 207, certainly love the ride and I must say this car is just simple and yet the premium feels is strong. The front seat is thick which means comfort, the engine is responsive and very quite (i love the rev sound of peugeot better than vios). Booked yesterday & can’t wait to drive the irresistible 207.
I am looking to buy the 207. Just read all the comments and am almost convinced it’sll be a brilliant buy….. But comparing to the Ford Fiesta…. any comments?
Ya, i love my pug 207, love the price tag, features and responsiveness. Besides, with the 5 years free maintenance, it a irresistible package.
For technology wise, Fiesta is definitely outclass 207. But i had done survey before I bought my 207. The engine TU5JP4 is an older engine but with great history. Its performance and reliability was proven. Yet, with other good features, 5 years of free maintenance and lower price tag, no reason for me to not choosing it.
P207, just went for a test drive ytd… superb driving… only comment is space wise is smaller than vios/city…. but thinking of getting one. Too bad the warranty now only 3yrs/60KM which ever comes first but with low interest rate abt 2.18%. Any free gifts you guys receive???
Pug 207 owners,
Why don’t we gather and do some activity. Sounds good isn’t it?
Edy, wait for me….just submit my loan application… hehehe. As publish in paper int rate 1.88%, can’t wait to join….
1.88%..wow..my one is 2.75%. haha.. the different is quite big. congratz.. join my207 group on FB~
Yup 1.88% till end April ’11… significant different… wait till the 207 is with me….. check the group in FB: my207… cud only see one member… or did i got the wrong FB address???
Jass.. gosh.. haha.. sorry~ I meant to invite all 207 owners to join. Just created the group to actually brings us together.
Okey noted on the FB… so more promotion hv to be done… hehehe…. FYI, last month about 47 units of 207 sold in JB area (JB & Plentong but not including Muar)…. edy, by the way… which part of the country u r???
I am in Selangor.
I have driven my 207 for 3mth now. No complain except for the internal fittings like the trimming covers which are not snugly fitted by the local assemblers. Anyway don’t expect much when the price is very attractive. The European models are much better fitted
Agree on that Jimmi. gosh.. my mileage just across 10k. but right now really don’t have time to go service. owh.. about the service, can we watch/witness their works?
Wow, 1.88%, it is really good! mine is 2.78% :), it is much higher.
Weng, but its seem quite funny with 2 different sales office in Johor diffrent rates. In JB they give int rate of 1.88% regardless of requested no. of year repayment (even 9 yrs) but in Plentong they are giving rates base on numbers of years eg. 6yrs-1.88%, 7yrs-1.98% & 9 yrs-2.18% funny huh…. So guys do your market survey first before placing yr booking…
Jass, really a good deal for you :) Hope you able to get your car soon.
Weng, yup can’t wait any longer… anyway as long as it is register within this month, i’ll get the 1.88% int rate. Just to share, salesman form Vios called me ytd & offer me the G spec with discount of $3500…. but no way hozay… i’ll still go for Pug207
sedang tunggu my 207 next week. they said paling lewat rabu depan.
for me, d design was so beauty, elegance n different…same i like mazda 2 or 3 too…
ermm…..toyota vios, honda city…..too many of them, but peugeot 207, make me different!
tp senyum die lebar sgt…body kecik..kalu 407 tu ngam la senyum die…coz body besar…
Dear P207 friends,
I had personnally test the car, it seems everythings are in order, can anyone already bought this car and tell me the sound proof good or not when u r drving on highway ? Engine quiet or not ? Other than that, I did agreed with someone saying the leg rooms at the back seat with small room, is that so far any problem for some tall people sitting at the back ? Look at inside the car, the room also a bit small and the height a bit lower than other cars, is that right ?
My final would asking someone already with this model and please tell me everything what i mentioned above got problem to it or not and I heard the spare parts also quite expensive is that true ?
Thanks Bro and Sis
Leg room maybe a bit less, but this is an E-segment car, so don’t expect much on legroom. Average people 5’3″ – 5’6″ would do fine with this baby. Yesterday I drove from Kota Bharu to KL, with my wife and kid, plus a fully loaded boot with luggage, 9kg packet of Siam rice, and some heavy fruits bought along the way. Started off with full tank in KB, drove normally and overtaking when necessary, often on 2nd or 3rd gear, especially when going uphill or at double lines. When I reached KL, there is still 160km shown before the next fill !!!
This is really amazing, as my 1.5 Iswara (Auto) or my earlier 1.5 Wira (manual) must be filled up along the way. When I topped up to full tank again last night, I paid only RM68 with the RON95 Extra.
Cruising along the highway from Karak to KL? The faster you go, the quieter it seems. And the seats really support my body very well… not much fatigue from sitting long hours. Same as my previous 405SRI, only the 405 has better seats. But that is different segment car.
I just put in my booking for my very own Pug 207. The comments in here are very encouraging… At least I don’t feel like I may be making a mistake…. Do keep the reviews coming… It really helps those of us trying to decide if we want to buy or not….
my 207 is still a week old with 207 plate as well =D in respons to peter, the soundproof is really good if u’re comparing with honda city. even riding on the choppy roads, the ‘thud’ sound is still solid, unlike the jap car which makes your stomach squeez after u bump into holes. on the highway, it got better & if u turn on the speaker, it’s only u & the music! leg room is a bit of challenging but that’s mangeable by just adjusting the front seats forward a little depending on how much space you want. but once you seat at the back, the soft fabric and comfy seat will make them forgot about the space. I think the 3 years free parts & services promotion is still on going so you better quick and join the 207 lion!
Peter, just got my Pug207 last Thursday & believe most of yr questions was answered. In addition to Jimmi & Malique, true enough sound proof was superb as engine was quiet… especially on highway & if you change from given tyre KUMHO to a better one it will do more great to it.
Leg room is relatively smaller compared to Vios or City & height as mentioned by Jimmi “Average people 5?3? – 5?6? would do fine with this baby” (but my brother which is abt 6′ still seems ok for – short journey), that is why 207 was meant/targeted for a small/young family. However my parents got no issue with it on thier first ride as good sound proof, superb suspension, excellent auto air-cond system (especially my mom as my previous Civic SR4 – Black does not give her marginal satisfaction of cooling system, now Pug207 – White) thus cross-subsidise with the space issue. Leg room was my first comment as above, but if you check the car spec especially the engine & compare Vious & City its really goes far out.
Fuel consumption wise will only prevail after using the car for a week or two as it is getting used to the driver style of driving. So far had clock 400++ KM & balance of 150 km to go when fuel up full tank on the day i got my 207.
About spare parts, mind you that Naza is now the responsible party of taking care of assembling the car at Gurun & with economy of scale, price of parts will be relatively much cheaper… but don’t compare to Japs car as this is a continental car & there is a price to pay for, for its quality.
Last but not least, what my brother said is true (using 308 Turbo for a year) ” Once you purchase a continental car, you will think twice to shift to Jap/other car”… its worth it… the choice is yours…. The rest of Pug207 owner… share yr experience
P/s: got free tinted form Tint-Shop worth RM 1K from Eurofrance Sdn Bhd, JB… offer ended
I’m juz received and drive my pug207 for about a week. I’m wondering whether you guys experience the same where i can hear a ‘noise’ when release the brake pedal sometimes. Is it true that a new brake pad will hav such noise? Btw, Do you guys satisfy with the speeding up of the engine when start from zero?
Guys, purchased my P207 in March 2011. Hv you guys experienced with its headlight, light is pretty clearer and higher that annoy people driving opposite direction. Secondly power steering pretty tight compared to electric power steering. Need yr comments on these. Thanks
Leo, suggest that you go back to the svc center check while it is still in the early stage as believe not many face that problem… mine in good condition & my wife commented on in its good braking system. On the accelerating from zero, try give sometime for it to get used to yr driving style…. but if you compare with yr previous or other car it may differ like my previous Civic 1.6 auto, acceleration from zero is smoother, but give sometime & see what others comment.
Affendi, true enough that headlight is pretty clear & the car height is higher compare to other type of sedan, thus suggest that you lower down & adjust to 0 (zero) at the right side of the steering & believe it make in coming vehicle less annoyed. Thight steering, yup a little bit as you said compare to electric power steering but need others to comment too as how thight & stiff yrs but I kinda like it as it feels really stable while driving above 100km/h especially on highway. Anyway if you think its too thight you might wanna go back to the service center & have a check.
Believe most of you guys live in Klang Valley which i supported Edy suggestion to gather for some activities or just a TT seseions & sharing yr views on the Pug207… Engineered to be Enjoy
I just booked my 207 yesterday. The low 1.88% interest promo + 3 years free service is just too good to resist. Anticipating to get the car latest by end of the month.
Marina, welcome 2 d club …. dun forget to register yrself on PCM
To those who have NOT bought 207, or any Peugeot car, or still thinking about which car to buy, maybe my story here can help you make a wise decision. Buying a car is not all about getting the driving comfort, but more than that we must ensure we are comfortable with the AFTER SALES SERVICES as we all know mechanical parts will sooner or later wear out, and needs replacement, maintenance etc.
So the credibility of the company in after sales service is of utmost important. The salesman will only tell us about all the good and advanced features of the vehicle but in the end we the customers will have to maintain the car after some years on the road. Maybe my emails here can shed some light for you to know how Nasim Sdn Bhd treats their customers in real life. Read on… by the way my real name is Nordin. Jimmi is my nick name
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, 25 April, 2011 7:39 PM
To: The salesman
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: 207 noise
Dear Mr. Yap,
I am quite disappointed that the noise problem cannot be solved even after the car was left for one day in the workshop
And why must the mechanic tell me to send to Puchong workshop? That is not convenient for the customer!
I bought the car in Ampang, and all related issues must be settled through Ampang branch.
The customer must take the issue with the branch where he buys the car, and it is up to the branch to solve the issue If the branch does not have the expertise to solve the issue, Peugeot must do whatever necessary, including sending to other bigger and more specialized workshop at their disposal, but never TELL the customer to send to other branches That is as though the branch wants to “wash hands” with the problem by pushing the customer away
Please discuss this issue with your branch manager. I am NOT prepared to drive around with this irritating “MUSIC” for the rest of my life with the 207! This is a brand NEW car anyway, and NASIM SDN BHD should exchange with another car!!!
Trying to solve the problem by trial and error method like this is wasting the customer’s time as well as it gives a very bad impression on the Peugeot QUALITY and professionalism of the service team. The first mechanic name Afan did not even hear the sound, but the second mechanic, Nizam heard it right away! And Nizam told me he tried everything from checking the exhaust pipe, rotating the tyres, checking the bearing but the sound remain the SAME!
Looking forward to your urgent reply
Thank You
Nordin
I RECEIVED REPLY FROM NASIM SDN BHD AS BELOW;
From: clic
To: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 4:41:23 AM
Subject: RE: 207 noise
Greetings from Peugeot,
We shall execute the necessary follow-up action and our Customer Service Personnel, will be attending to your request. We shall update you on the status as soon as possible.
Appreciate if you can provide us with your contact details and necessary arrangement will be made to attend to your feedback.
We also regret for any inconvenience caused to you and should there be any matter, in which we may have given you the cause to be dissatisfied, please feel free to contact our Peugeot Careline at 1800-88-6292 for assistance.
Thank you
NASIM SDN BHD
CLIENT INTERACTION CENTER (CLiC)
CARELINE : 1-800-88-NAZA (6292)
FAX : +603-5569 0599
AND I PROMPTLY REPLIED TO THEM;
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: clic ;
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 7:53:30 AM
Subject: 207 noise problem
Dear Sirs,
Thank you very much for your fast response. Attached please find the JOB SHEET for reference.
As I am now overseas, kindly contact my wife to arrange for the car to be sent to Peugeot (Ampang branch only) for further check
Is it possible for NASIM SDN BHD to provide a replacement car while our car is sent for repair which is evidently a FACTORY DEFECT.
Otherwise we will be left with no car, and have to rely on public transport to go to work!
Please contact my wife directly as following details;
Name : XXXX
Tel : 019 – XXXXXXX
Thank you and best regards,
Nordin
SINCE THEN THEY NEVER REPLIED TO ME ANYMORE;
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: clic
Cc: The salesman
Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 8:31:27 AM
Subject: 207 noise problem – Reminder
Dear Sirs,
We have not heard from you since you first wrote to us on 26 Apr (10 days ago) Kindly confirm when we can send the car for repairs
We shall only send to Ampang branch and it is up to them if they wish to send to other Peugeot centres.
As customer, we bought from Ampang branch and we wish to send only to Ampang branch We are not familiar with Puchong areas and it is also too far away from our place. Please provide a REPLACEMENT CAR as this problem arises from FACTORY DEFECT.
Peugeot should regard this matter as urgent and put a priority to solve this issue as it will reflect on the Peugeot QUALITY, and to ensure customer satisfaction who bought the car based only on the advertisement that highlights all the good aspects of the car. We have no other reference before deciding to buy this new model.
I have used many cars before, from Mazda, Honda, Ford, Proton Iswara, Wira, Peugeot 405, Kancil either new or second hands but ALL of them did not exhibit the same defect that i have with the brand new Peugeot 207. It really moves my EMOTION as the noise irritates the eardrums especially on long distances.
Maybe this problem is UNIQUE only to the unfortunate 207 that was delivered to me. It is peculiar as the sound only starts at 80km/h and above. It is a soft, non-coherent sound akin to metal-to-metal vibration. Surely it is NOT like a tyres or bearing sound as investigated by the mechanic at AMpang workshop.
You may need a very experienced mechanic to investigate the issue, because a young and inexperienced one may not even hear the sound, as proven earlier.
Looking forward to hear from you soonest.
Sincerely,
Mohd. Nordin
10 DAYS LATER I HAVE TO REMIND THEM, THEY NEVER CAME BACK TO ME
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: [email protected]; enquiries@peugeot.com.my
Cc: The salesman
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 6:49:36 PM
Subject: JOB Sheet 01519
Dear Sirs,
I am totally disappointed with the service shown by Nasim Sdn Bhd as the Peugeot distributor. It is already 9 days since the car was sent on 12May. Add one more day when it was sent earlier on 21Apr.
Nasim Sdn Bhd had turned a deaf ear to our repeated requests for a REPLACEMENT CAR while this car is being repaired for a FACTORY DEFECT which is totally not our fault. We have to undergo great inconvenience for sending this brand new car for a minor but nevertheless a very hard-to-detect defective workmanship. You are taking things easy and are NOT sensitive to the customer grouses.
Whatever PROMISES written in your advertisements such as;
GREAT SERVICE
COMPLETE AFTER-SALES SERVICE
BEST & MOST PROFESSIONAL AFTER-SALES EXPERIENCE
EXPERT CARE – PEUGEOT SPECIALIST
are all TOTALLY NON – EXISTANT!
Just consider these facts;
1. CLIQ wrote to me on 26Apr and promised to update the status AS SOON AS POSSIBLE,
but I have to send a reminder on 05May, a full 10 days later about the issue. Is that a professional service?
2. Despite repeated reminders, Nasim Sdn Bhd does not provide a REPLACEMENT CAR for our use
during this repair period. Such multimillion RM establishment could not provide a car for causing great
inconvenience to their customer! Even small backyard workshop had given us a replacement car.
3. Expert care? Peugeot Specialist? The 1st mechanic could not even hear the sound! And what specialist,
even after 10 days there is no news of what is going on, whether the problem was detected or otherwise?
4. Complete After Sales Service? When we were told to send to Puchong workshop which is 50km away!
Nasim Sdn Bhd should have thought about all the possibilities and come out with a Logistics Masterplan.
You should not try to inconvenient the customer. The customer should be allowed to send those cars
with FACTORY DEFECTS only to the branch where they buy the car, simple as that!
Regardless of the above, we strongly suggest for Nasim Sdn Bhd to CHANGE THE CAR to another new unit. We anticipate the repairs will take longer, as it is evident after 10 days the source of the problem has still not been traced. Please take this suggestion SERIOUSLY, and we expect a reply on 21May, giving you ample time for discussion with the management.
If we do not receive any reply by 21May, this issue will be broadcast to the public which may be detrimental to the future sales of 207 models, and scratch the image of Nasim Sdn Bhd as a responsible distributor. Thanks to modern technology great things can be accomplished with the click of a button!
For your information, we are also considering to submit a claim for the loss of use for the car and other damages deemed fit by the lawyer.
We trust the above is in order and we look forward to your urgent reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Mohd. Nordin Abbas
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: The salesman
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 8:32:24 AM
Subject: 207 – COMPENSATION PAYMENT
Dear Sirs,
I heard news from the salesperson Mr. Yap that the problem was found and attributed to the door rubber seal.
So that saves Nasim Sdn Bhd from changing the car. However, I strongly request that Nasim Sdn Bhd make
a COMPENSATION PAYMENT to me for the LOSS OF USE of the car for the duration it was kept in the
workshop via Job Sheet 01335 & 01519.
We anticipate a compensation of at least RM250.00 per day of loss of use. This amount is considered nominal
and it will save my time and your time and reputation. If we can settle this amicably then there is no need for me
to go through the hassle of legal means such as the CONSUMER’S TRIBUNAL etc.
Please consider this proposal SERIOUSLY and URGENTLY, because the loss of use was totally due to FACTORY DEFECT and if you agree to this proposal, you will live up to your advertised motto;
BEST & MOST PROFESSIONAL AFTER-SALES EXPERIENCE
I expect to receive your reply by 26 May 2011, and if there is no reply by then this news will be spread among the
public, inclusive of all your competitors who will be more than happy to show this email to their prospective customers who are also potential Peugeot customers. The effect on Peugeot sales will be disastrous.
You may contact me via this email, or my tel. (Saudi) +966547491688 or +966505127004 or my wife XXXX at 019XXXXXXXXX
Yours Sincerely,
Mohd Nordin Abbas
Dear Sirs,
We have not received any reply from you on the COMPENSATION PACKAGE for the loss of use of our car due to the FACTORY DEFECT.
Is Nasim Sdn Bhd interested to LISTEN to the customer complain, or are you just brushing us aside?
For the last time, we are giving another day grace until 27 May 2011 by 5:00PM (Malaysian time).
If we do not receive any reply from you by return email, there will be no further warning and this news of you blatant handling of customer complains will be spread all over the world, starting with your competitors.
My advise to you is please do not be PENNY WISE POUND FOOLISH. You may be too proud or thinking that the few thousand RM to compensate me is too much? If that is what you are thinking, just keep the money and wait for the effect after we spread your VERY POOR after-sales service and you can see how that will affect your future sales of Peugeot cars.
We have given you enough warnings and reminders, if that have fallen on deaf ears, let us see how the power of Internet that was used in the Egyptian Revolution can do to Peugeot sales in Malaysia.
Yours sincerely,
Mohd. Nordin
That is the real Naza. bad after sales svs. what a shame.
Hi Jimmi@Nordin,
Too bad of experience that you had went through with the after sales services from Nasim…….. heard of these (bad after sales service) from others in some other forum but the car was too good to resist with the prevailing price OTR & that is one of the reason people buy this car including myself. One of the reason i purchase the car from Eurofrance, JB i/o Nasim, Plentong is because of the same reason: aftersales service. Went for test drive at Nasim but bought it from Eurofrance though nearer to my house as heard from a PUG 3008 owner that she did not EXPERIENCE – BEST & MOST PROFESSIONAL AFTER-SALES. Similar to your case that some cars was asked to enroute to Eurofrance due to better expertise found there.
Hope yr issue with Nasim will resolve soonest.
cc: [email protected]
Typical Malay company mentality (I am not racist :)
If possible can forward the mail to France Peugeot HQ. It helps sometimes.
I just received news from my wife that the car is still in the workshop. Immediately I called the salesperson and he confirmed that the noise WAS NOT attributed to the door seal. After changing the seal, the noise was still there. That means they HAVE NOT traced where the noise actually came from. I tried to get France Peugeot email addr but i can’t get it. Does anyone know? This is my latest email to NAZA;
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: CM Yap
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 6:01:47 PM
Subject: WUT2070 – PROBLEM STILL NOT SOLVED?????????????????????????????
Dear Sirs,
I heard from my wife today that the car was still not returned to us. Immediately I called the salesperson and he confirmed that the noise WAS NOT attributed to the door seal!!!!!! In fact the source of the noise is still untraceable until now!!!!
It is already 19 days since we sent to you on 12May 2011. And you are keeping quiet about giving us a REPLACEMENT CAR!!! You are really treating your customers like stupid bastards????????? This is the real face of NAZA Motors.
Very Unhappy,
Nordin
Nik Annita
Nik Amella
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: CM Yap
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 1:53:46 PM
Subject: Fw: 207 – PROBLEM STILL NOT SOLVED?????????????????????????????
YOU ARE REALLY TREATING YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE WE ARE ALL STUPID BASTARDS !!!!!!!!!
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: CM Yap
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 7:02:37 PM
Subject: Fw: 207 – PROBLEM STILL NOT SOLVED?????????????????????????????
YOU ARE REALLY TREATING YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE WE ARE ALL STUPID BASTARDS !!!!!!!!!
NO REPLY!!! NO REPORT!!!
NO NOTHING !!!!!!!
Bro, not sure there is email stated at the official Peugeot France website further more it’s in France, just google Peugeot Hompage & go to contact & you can leave your questions/comments & send….. then we’ll see how it goes from there.
Not sure whether this email address able to help : [email protected], but just give it a try. Hope it works.
Thanks to you Jass & Weng. Anyway just today I was told that NAZA will provide a courtesy car to us. So I will take the courtesy car and give them a chance to find the source of the noise. The salesman also told me that his manager’s 207 has the same noise but a little softer.
If they can find the source it will do good for them as it seems mine is not the only one having the problem. They can arrest this issue at the factory by improving the assembly method etc.
I have French colleague here at my project site in Saudi and he also cannot find the Peugeot France email. We exchanged ideas and he told me that in France all cars out of factory are driven on a test track with various road conditions and after that re-inspected in the factory for any loose parts etc. If cars are transported to other centres, they are first sent to a huge workshop where they are again inspected against a full checklist just in case there are damages due to the transportation.
It seems quality is not a laughing matter in Europe but how many manufacturers have a test track in Malaysia?
What a big disgrace!
BTW, so pity of ur bad experiment with 207, mr jimmi
Thanks for yr sympathy MK Wing. Now that I have the courtesy car, they can take 2 years to repair i don’t care!!! :) By the way it is not good for us to EXPERIMENT with cars because they are expensive items
U r right. Cars r expensive to try, how about motorcycle? hahahaha
407 is a nice looking car, too bad it is going to phase out… unless NAZA can rebadge it just like 206.
I lost my car this month. it`s vios NCA1852 gold. some body taken it. so i think to buy pug207. but after read jimmy problem with the company, i deside to book vios again.
Hii Nasa, you have made a wise choice! Either go for VIOS again or try Honda City.
Honda City i-vtec is ok, but my frenz told me the rear suspension arms of honda city gets spoiled quickly, btw, he is working in workshop.
i guess vios still the best choice in the market. or u can try mazda2, my frenz juz bought it 3 weeks ago. he said very nice handling. :D
Latest news, my 207 is still in the workshop. 10 days ago they told me it was due to some bearing issue, and they need to order the part from France. This is really STUPID excuse because the 207 is assembled in Malaysia so all parts must be available here!!! That is very simple logic, even standard 1 pupils can understand that! What I believe is they have NOT found the cause and give the excuse of ordering from overseas because they can buy more time! Now.. that is more likely, isn’t it?
Anyway, the sound actually was NOT the sound of bearing, as it is like a soft KNOCKING sound. It sounds like tok..tok..tok. but soft
Bearing sound is a screeching, continuous sound.. something like eeeeeeeeekkkkkkk..kreeeeeekkkkk like that
They can try to bullshit other people but surely not me!
And sure enough, just yesterday the salesman told us the sound came from under the water pump, what happen to the bearing sound as claimed earlier ????????? Now they promise to ready the car by Friday 24 June
Im looking forward ur 207 condition by this friday. keep me posted. thanks. btw, dun worry, be happy bcuz u got courtesy car at least. frustrated about juz killing ur brain cells for nothing benefiting. :D
I am in a fix. Because I am now in Saudi. And my wife… she didn’t even hear the noise earlier. Just like the 1st. mechanic at the Ampang workshop. The sound is rather faint, only sensitive ears can hear it. So I can’t see the car myself. I just hope they don’t leave any screws behind.
Hmmm…worried about ur wife, i guess u hv to keep ur wife alert wif tat “car”. What a lousy workshop, new car with new problem. *sigh*
Last time i work at Toyota HQ before and have a chance to work at Call centre for 1 day. A lot of ppl calling and keep on complaining about their new Vios, Altis and even Camry. 1 customer told me that his Vios can’t even start up and Camry owner complain that new problems came out after fix. Sometimes really depends on your luck when you get your new car.
Frankly, there r defected cars in any brand (public market), the main problem here is the after sale service. Jimmi is the unlucky one with NASIM. pity
kepada jimmy
saya kesia / pity dgn keadaan yang kamu hadapi. tapi tak perlulah kamu post berlebih-lebihan sehingga menjejaskan ownwe peugeot 207 yang lain. seperti yg ramai ketahui. kadang2 beli kereta ni mcm tgk nasib….sumtimes no luck!
saya dah pakai 207 olmost 2 bulan. so far memang superb!!!! lebih2 lagi kalu ambil mode pemanduan sport, push button ‘S’. Suspension of my car and balancing superb! carry at die corner also superb!!! alhamdulillah. thanks to god…mayb saya bernasib baik….apa2pun saya menyokong peugeot 207. the design so sexy, modern, classic and elegance..!;-)
harap saudara jimmy dapat menyelesaikan masalah dgn baik…
Thank you Putera
I was also very enthusiastic about the 207 in the beginning. But since this is an E-segment car there are certain drawbacks. I tried to brush it aside but actually we cannot cheat ourselves. My conscience tell me I must tell the truth;
The car is light, so when cornering on uneven road we sometimes feel drifted aside. Since the suspension is rather stiff the car will jolt and we can feel unstable. My Proton Iswara does not feel like this on the same corner. I heard the windscreen is very expensive, but I guess all the salesman never highlighted this issue. And stupid enough, they don’t even advised us to take the additional insurance for windscreen.
It is very expensive because some sensors are embedded into the glass. So everyone, be careful not to break the windscreen.
Another thing I must be frank that the 207 brakes are not really that superb, due to NOT having discs on all four. So I do not tailgate the front car too closely. If you try the 308 you will feel the brakes are so much different. But the 308 is too heavy and underpowered, so the acceleration is slow, that’s why I chose the 207
MR jimmi, so how is ur repaired car? problem solved? better? same or worse?
MKwing I do not wish and will not answer your queries because I dislike comment No. 94
My bad~~
jimmi
ermmm…mayb u got ur point. i feel sorry about ur 207 prob. i hope u can fix all error soon n can get back njoy d car on d road!:-)
Thank u Jimmy, I am considering tis 207 but after your true story, I hold it back as I agreed that a marvelous after sales service is really important. Thanks for sharing
So much hype about the 207, one thing really lacking about the car is the sound system which is totally below par even when compared to a Proton Saga. The speakers sound so cheap and lifeless.
I sit inside a Ford Focus in Dubai, the speakers of Ford Focus are so rich in the full spectrum of sound from deep bass to middle and high notes. The bass sounds as if there is a subwoofer or power amp, but that is only the basic unit.
I am thinking hard how to upgrade the 207 sound, but I don’t wish to disturb the wiring and internal decor as the car is brand new. Knowing Malaysian standard accessory shops they all run wiring flying everywhere without concern for quality installation. Never use male/female plugs but simply twist cables (splicing) and use cheap electrical tapes that later become sticky when you open them… ooo gosh!
Just went to fix my 207 car seat at Puchong Service Centre today. I found out that Peugeot just launched a new service. They provide us a free shuttle and fetch us to some other area within puchong (such as IOI mall) . It is a good service which will free you from just waiting at the service centre. Heard that this service will be announced to public soon.
Dear all,
Jus bought my peugeot 207 few weeks ago, I found the handling is quite good, suspension is better than my previous car. Drive on the rough road, quite quiet. Sound system for me is normal. Fuel consumption so far I can get is 16.24km/l for running 80~100km/h on 94% highway. Overall is acceptable. My comment for peugeot 207 is 8 out of 10 so far for this few weeks.
Only thing I complain is too small and less compartment, cant even put my little bottle properly.
Have just fitted my 207 with SV’s bodykit, so far so so guuddd…
hi guys…
nak tanya, macamana dengan minyak ye?makan minyak kuat?
my friend skarang pakai bestari, and minyak mmg guna kuat..so im afraid if all peugeot model especially dis one pon sma… :(
but i really love the design……………
dah guna lebih 3 bulan dan sent for first 10000km service….minyak not bad…highway use (speed ranging 90km/h – 140km/h), dari jb isi RM72.07 (fuel low warning masa tu) sampai ipoh, dlm 520km (full house – 4 orang + penuh but) masih ada dalam 40km (fuel low warning dah timbul)…so not that bad…long distance okay….pug406 saya isi penuh boleh travel dari jb ke kb without refuelling lalu coastal road (755 km)….cuma city/town use the distance kena less 40% dari highway use…biasalah byk traffic lite dan berhenti-berhenti…
Saya rasa 407 lagi cantik, sayang NAZA tak pasang 407. Kalau pasang tentu lagi murah.
Dalam masa terdekat ni, pug407 akan diberhentikan pengeluaran digantikan dgn 408 (platform 308 yg dijadikan sedan) dan 508 (gantian 407 dan 607 digabungkan jadi 508-new platform kalau tak silap)akan dibawa masuk pada tahun 2012/13….manalah tahu mcm bestari 206 (rebadge naza), 407 rebadge ke Naza pulak (407 pun dipasang di Malaysia, CKD)…klau blh buat camtu, maybe harganya below 100k kot….tapi suma terpulang pada deal Peugeot dan Naza lah sama ada blh jadi Naza407?
Got my 207 from Nasim Sdn Bhd about 2 months back. They changed the door rubber strip, changed the belting, changed water pump but the noise still present. Then they changed the antenna, and the noise stopped!
The antenna on my car was fitted with a slightly longer than usual by the supplier. So when moving, the stupid antenna flexes and made a non-coherent soft but audible and irritable sound which is amplified by the ROOF!
After 20 days of “fighting” with Nasim online, they finally gave a courtesy car (Naza 206) a 1.3 model. I have decided not to proceed with any action for any further compensation. The news of NAZA workshop burned to the ground in Kedah was music to my ears. May Allah the Almighty punish them more in future for whatever wrong deeds they do now.
This Hari Raya was the real test for my 207, going long distances first to South then to East Coast. The 207 was really put to the test. Going 160-170km/hr is a breeze without any feel of floating. From Pandan to Benut toll took me exactly 2 hours, with one stop at the washroom.
Only three cars overtook me, a BMW 5 Series, BMW X5 and the new Lancer which were very fast. Other than that, all give way including Merc, Japanese makes and Volvo etc.
Going back to East Coast, putting the 207 on S mode helps when climbing hills or overtaking on the Federal roads.
Jimmi, so the problem solved? Only the antenna matter? if that so, im definitely wanna to buy 207. ngeh3
btw, congraz tat ur car is fixed. XD
Jimmi, Welcome back bro…. wooo hold yr horses man… as going on 160-170km/hr was really a test to yr P207. Dare not go that fast… well everytime go on long distance at peak hr/season while the White Horses of PDRM make my 207 to bold to run that fast. However almost make it to 160km/hr while wifey is sleeping…ehehehe. Hope the spirit of Syawal makes you fogive them (but not to forget…hihihi)…. well the car is gud indeed & people who don’t really concern about any new car on the block (especially continental) will thought that it cost you a bump to purchase the 207 at least they will guess about 100K. Singaporean are also impress of this 207 on few trips there as it looks sporty but some say the rear look a little bit akward… anyway gud to get a new door rubber strip, belting, water pump & antenna which was actually causing the trouble… but there is a lession learned for everybody & something to ponder on especially NAZA…. Again welcome back to d club Bro as to congrats you is not the perfect choice of word… anyway have a gud drive. Last but not least, Believe it’s not to late to wish you Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri & to all Peugeot owners.
tragedy….a 25 tonne lorry just ramped to my car this afternoon….stopped at traffic lite and after some time felt like the car was hit from the back…looked at the rear mirror…a face of a lorry….this crazy driver did not manage to stop on red lights….:-(
I found my Peugeot 207 got wind sound when travel at 80~90km/h. I go to service centre to help me adjust, he say ok already. When I went home, I still can find this problem. They waste me the time and travel all the way there but help nothing.
Jimmi, may I know your noise is it come from where?
Andrew,
You are SURELY not reading all my postings properly. It was already explained in detail in my posting on 23 Sep. Just read….
What I love about continental car, the faster we go, the quieter it becomes. And there is no feeling of the car floating. It makes us feel confident. I just hope I did not get any speeding tickets from cameras supposedly mounted under bridges now!!!
you also do not know what I am asking you.
Andrew,
Read before u ask. He is in rage d.
Omg?In rage? how to drive?
jimmi, he seriously dunno read english one. haiz
Cause you do not know my feeling, only know about your ownself. Thats why!
Andrew, pleased to enlighten you…
QUOTE, from Jimmi posting Sept 23 @ 3.47 am
Got my 207 from Nasim Sdn Bhd about 2 months back. They changed the door rubber strip, changed the belting, changed water pump but the noise still present. Then they changed the antenna, and the noise stopped!
The antenna on my car was fitted with a slightly longer than usual by the supplier. So when moving, the stupid antenna flexes and made a non-coherent soft but audible and irritable sound which is amplified by the ROOF!
UNQUOTE,
It’s the ANTENNA bro… pls get yrs check as it might be the same problem.
jass,
u r too kind man. proved that u can read very well. good.
hiii………………….my pug207sv just 2 weeks old…..
just want to share with ur all…..comfort: superb, power: wow….just ade sikit bunyi….bunyi macam angin masuk & a bit end sound like drinking straw….service centre kata bunyi compressor acond…..also wonder, 1 st service after 10K km ? betul ke? used vios before, first service 1 K, 5K and every 10 K….
Sam, Welcome to the club…. my 207 is 7 mths old & is running fine without any noise left behind. Bunyi macam masuk angin & a bit end sound like drinking thru straw is bad…. It should not induce such sound & worst if it comes from the compressor bcoz brand new car compressor does not produce that sound & it might be faulty. Pls get yours thouroughly check if you really mind of the sound… remember it’s only 2 weeks old… get it fix in the early stage as NAZA is very ineficient with AFTER SALES SERVICE (read thru all the comment above). It’s best Not to be LATE & Not to be SORRY too. Anway enjoy your ride & safe drive….
Sam, one more thing…. Yup service after every 10K… but there is a system check at 2.5K pls refer to your service voucher which i’ve missed… not all sales person will be telling you this & i overlooked at the service voucher…. ENGINEERED TO BE ENJOY.
Hi there, I am seriously considering the 207SV – due to the very good promotions for 5 year warranty (unlimited mileage) + free 5 year service and labor.
I just want to know how is the fuel consumption in general for 60% city, 40% highway?
I am also thinking about Honda Insight – due to the hybrid and supposingly good fuel consumption; Of course I knew over the long run, it will costs a lot ( due to battery replacement + higher car price as well ).
If the 207SV consumption is a bit higher only ( I read about some people driving the Insight and the 207SV that the mileage difference is only slight ie app. 900km for Insight – 40L fuel tank, and 800+km for 207SV – 50L fuel tank). If this is the case, then it will definitely be a better choice over the long period ( price different + 21K with battery after 5 years that costs 7k ). I will use app RM21K petrol over 5 years period and the catch for 207SV is the free 5 years service and maintenance will is definitely a PLUS point for me here ).
Anyone please kindly advise if can? Thank you so much ^^
Hi guys,
I’m seriously considering the 207SV.
Appreciate if your advise on fuel consumption and the ‘bad things’ (if any).
Thanks a lot.
hi..when i telling my friend about peugeot,they says difficult to find spareprt and high cost..is it true??
really interested 207sv
I have been using the 207 for exactly one year, no problem at all and every minute of driving is sheer pleasure.
Arriving too soon at the destination doesn’t feel good, because the seat are so comfortable I want to sleep in the car
But what can I do, after going 160 – 170 km/hr with no apparent feel of floating at all… we will arrive too early anyway
For potential owners of 207, fuel consumption is fair. Actually it depends very much in your driving style. On average, I am satisfied with the fuel consumption. The latest promotion (5 years free service + 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage) is great. Imagine 5 years without having to spend any money for routine service (oil change and after three years, timing belts etc will be changed without any cost). It may give u up to 5-6k of savings (10 times of free service + one major service) in service maintenance. I am in the 7th month of using the car (only 3 years free service + 5 years or 100,000 km warranty at time of purchase). Superb handling, like Jimmi said, the seats are so comfortable, and great driving pleasure. If you are really serious in 207, why not grab it during this promotion period with additional savings on service and warranty. :-)
Hi all,
i already use 207 before krismas until now. 207 is so great. handling superb. honestly to good compare proton handling system.
seat very comfort. i get 5 years free service (labour cost & part ) =100, 000km where 1years = 20,000km + 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage. price for 207 = rm72,888 & for 207sv = 76,888. i get less 4k during promotion. so my car is rm68,888. And the important i don’t pay the down-payment. that true…
Just received my 207 SV on sat!! Got in in 5 days too from Naza at TTDI! Salesman very helpful too! very smooth driving on the road, no complains so far from a few days of driving across city roads and highways. Will post back again regarding fuel consumption
One question here guys, how do I activate/use follow me home light? my light switches off as i switch off my engine too..
thanks guys! :)
Faizal,
The deal that you’ve got sounds cool (esp the less 4k part..), which Naza did you went to?
DL,
i go to naza Sg Petani. and 1 more thing, i get full tank fuel.
Hi, the Peugeot 207 comes with 5 years of free service & 5 years unlimited mileage warranty, does it includes the break pad, engine oil, transmission oil, tyre, absorber,fuses, wipers, bulb? Thanks
Dear All 207 community,
Nice to meet you all. I just found this forum and just bought my RED peug207SV.
I hope I can contribute something about this 207 matters.
hi, my salesman said “breakpad” u need to pay.
My 207 temperature meter is not functioning properly at times
The stupid meter sometimes showed VERY HIGH temp reading almost reaching the red line
I brought to the workshop and they couldn’t do anything other than resetting the bloody computer
They told me to bring to the workshop when it happens again. But it happens very rarely
I believe this is only computer indication problem, not reflecting the actual situation in the engine
But you can’t be too sure if you are alone outstation on yhe highway or in remote areas. It makes you feel nervous
And gentlemen… the correct spelling is BRAKE PAD not BREAK…. you don’t want to break anything here… right?
Oh Jimmi, You are right. Sorry about the “break”. But please give me a brake. hihi.
Guys, I got some advice from friends. they said that if you got a new car you cant drive more them 80km/hr.
The reason is: worry that the metal chips inside the engine will spoil the engine piston because the car just come out from factory.
It is true scientifically.
need some clarifications from all the expert outside there.
Hi all, good day ~ Can I just want to ask you something.
I actually got my 207SV 2 days ago before CNY, and would like to ask you something.
i) I heard the 20-50kmh noise of the engine; seems not so smooth. Are you guys hearing it? My mileage now is only 85km. Maybe because it’s still new?
I havent asked Peugeout Malaysia yet; so hope someone can comment.
ii) Also, like Andrew, did you guys hear some noise like wind sound when you driving? It’s not that loud; but it’s noticeable enough when you off the radio or the radio is less volume at higher speed.
iii) Yesterday, when I start my car, I heard a screeching sound, seems like coming from timing belt/air cond belt. This happened after I wash my car; the day is also raining, and I didn’t start the car for about 1 day. Before that never happened ( well, just 2 days old ) and today also no more this sound. Is that normal? Maybe the car is still very new?
Hope you can advise if you can ^^ I have the active red color; ^^ it’s a beauty ~
Happy Chinese New Year 2012 !
hi guys, today when i drive up the hill at bandar puteri puchong i can feel the car vibrating (not very smooth) especially when i press the fuel paddle not so heavy, even my right leg also can feel the vibrating.
And also when I drive the 207sv at normal road then i stop at the traffic light when it is red just for a while then, when green light on. I start to press the fuel paddle the same situation where i can feel the vibrating come from the engine (feels like not very smooth).
Not Smooth maybe because(the transmission or operation for this type of engine)
Need some opinions from the expert out there.
hi albert and the rest,
I believe all of us have the similar experience as what albert has. I asked the Technical adviser at the service center and he said it is normal. I requested to test drive another 207 (the test drive unit) and the result was similar. So, I have no complained any further and eventually the vibration diminishes as time goes by (in my 8th month of using the car). I presume, the power of the engine might cause the vibration at the begining (just imagine, a 207 fitted with a 1.6 petrol engine – in Europe/UK they fitted the car with 1.4 Petrol and 1.6 Diesel engines). Here we have 1.6 petrol engines which is more powerful than the 1.4 ones (If I’m not mistaken the same 1.6 petrol engines used in 307 models). So albert, maybe the more mileage you have, the lower the vibration you could feel from the car :-)
hi all,
albert,i suggest for new car u drive below 80km/h for 1st 100km. Then for 2nd 100km u drive below 100km/h. after that u can drive as u want. i already try until 160km/h without press sport button. so greet.
jimmi, as i know, the fan for radiator only turn on when engine temperature reach at 90 degree during driving. so, after drive too long, then we stop and off engine so temperature of engine still increase. i want to know, your meter showed VERY HIGH temp reading almost reaching the red line during driving or after stop driving?
ken, vibration is like fuel consumption, which better fuel consumption for engine 1.6L drive at 50km/h or 100km/h. of course u can get better fuel consumption when drive 100km/h. vibration can lower when u reach some speed not only test at range 20km/h-50km/h. the sound u heard when wash a car is like a screeching sound just ignore it. i also face some situation before this.
regarding wind sound when driving, try u all drive at 80km/h – 100km/h and turn off aircond and radio.then put your left or right hand at aircond hole. u can feel some wind, very slow wind. so my finding that sound is from there.
“correct me if i’m wrong”
thanks.
Hello Faizal,
The needle showed REDLINE after I drove only 5 minutes!
And when I switched off the engine, the needle DID NOT go to zero but stayed at 80Deg
So that is surely a problem with the stupid computer, or maybe the sensor, OR maybe the meter itself
Screeching sound from belting is normally due to;
1. Slightly loose belting
2. Oil present on the belting
Both above will cause the belt to slip from the pulleys when you press the accelerator hard
Oil on belting can be washed away by pouring hot water on the belting at idle speed
Normally we NEVER wash car engines with water from the hose
Just blow with compressed air and wipe with damp cloth
Best Regards
There are many gadgets in the market for reducing fuel consumption
I have used the SURBO and satisfied with its performance
It is a metal piece that somehow compresses the air flowing into the injector
It cost only rm150 and there is no moving parts, nothing to fail at all
At first I tried on my old Iswara. We need to press LESS on the pedal for the same speed
That is why the fuel consumption is less with the surbo fitted. No need to press the pedal as before
Especially good during cruising at 120-140km/hr it feels like the car goes even we press the pedal lightly
After one week using the Iswara with the device, I fitted the surbo on my brand new 207
You can ask this guy if you wish to try. Name is Irwan, tel 013 357 1244
Hi jimmi,
Would the SURBO thing affect the warranty of the car? It is installed in the engine part right? Just curious to know…
The surbo is a STATIC device and fixed in the air intake hose just beside the filter
It is not an engine part, we do not alter the engine like turbo charge, or changing the piston and block to a sports type etc.
We do not cut the springs, or change the absorbers to shorter ones
I believe the surbo is not meddling with the internal workings of the engine
Anyway if you are in doubt just ask the dealer
I am so far very happy with the improved performance
Hello there guys,
Just would like to ask if the radio in this model 207SV, normally gets bad reception in Klang Valley? Any of you guys experience this before, or is it a manufacturer faulty?
Thanks
One more question. Could any one recommend to me a place where I can get a 16 inch Peugeot rims?
It’s quite difficult to get a decent new rim or even to find any rims in the tyre shops. I’ve search Klang and Subang. The conclusion is that, Subang has better deal to offer in terms of choices and appearances.
Do appreciate your help.
By the way, I got a new 207SV white. :)
yea David.. my radio’s reception in Klang Valley is bad too… the static/white noise sound can be heard every now and then. SUPER IRRITATING
So, we can assume that the radio offered which received a bad reception is of a low quality product. What happened here? Did the radio come from a cheap shop? There’s not even a brand stated on it.
Do you think changing the radio will affect the car warranty?
Thanks MaximusP
hi all,
i think that not about the radio but about the antenna. coz when i park under a tree, my signal for radio not clear. but if on the road the radio is like normal.
thanks.
Hi David and all,
I think it’s something to do with the antenna not the radio itself. It works perfectly well on the PLUS highways, JB area (near to Singapore, can get Sing radio stations) and even in the northeast KB, Tumpat (near to Thailand, even can get Thai radio station there). I have been to those places and the receptions are perfect. In Klang valley, most of the places are fine. Maybe you could check with the after sales service people, they might help you out on this. My only problem with the unit was a day after got the car where the volume knob was not functioning (cannot move down or up the volume). Went to the service center and the technician reset the computer and everything functioning back as normal and do not have any problem with the unit ever since…
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: “CM Yap”
Dear Sirs,
I was driving back my Peugeot 207 from Kelantan to Kuala Lumpur yesterday on 07Feb 2012 when I felt something was not right. There was some kind of blockage between the accelerator pedal and the brake pedal. I did not stop to check it out, only I use the tip of my foot to press the pedals so as not to hit the blockage in between them.
This morning 08Feb 2012 I have the time to check what caused the blockage and was very surprised to find the Electronic / Electrical module came off as per attached photo.
I remember that the last service was done at VOLCARE Ulu Klang, the reason of the complain was the temperature needle went to the RED line when driving and stayed at about 75 Deg when switched off.
Unfortunately it was my wife who sent the car and she did not ask for the pink customer copy of the Service Order (being typical woman)
Volcare had checked the car’s computer, and this is the point of access to plug into the module. It could be that they DID not tighten, or fixed the module properly. Such UNPROFESSIONAL and shoddy workmanship can cause accidents if the motorist is not aware of the issue. This is very, very DANGEROUS as it hinders the free movement of our foot to travel between the accelerator and BRAKE pedals!!!!!
One other thing i would like to point out here, my 207 dashboard RATTLES badly when we go over rough roads which are abundant in the East Coast. This was noticed before but there was not much bad roads in KL so I did not bring this issue to light.
Can Peugeot still repair this RATTLING dashboard problem now, is it still covered by the warranty?
Thank you,
Dear Sirs,
As I was writing the first email while waiting for a friend to pack up and go home, I left something important to this issue.
Yesterday while driving from Kelantan to Kuala Lumpur, there were a few times that my foot really got seriously BLOCKED by the Electrical module when I wanted to BRAKE the car. And I was travelling at anything above 120km/hr then!!!. And when my foot got free from the BLOCKAGE, I pressed the brake pedal so hard because the car was near to hitting the front vehicle. The rear passengers were slammed to the back of the front seats.
And today 08Feb 2012 while going back from work, my foot also got BLOCKED again.
I am really furious and very UPSET by such shoddy workmanship that can cause serious accident. And to think that the cause was due to some stupid foreman, or mechanic that failed to do his work PROPERLY. He should take time to CHECK his work!!! Maybe there are some screws left out by the mechanic. As the module is placed in an AWKWARD position, I bet most people will take things easy by leaving a few screws, or maybe NOT even fixing the screws and just push it there and hope the friction will hold the module in place. Such very STUPID acts can cause very serious accident to the driver!!!! Mechanics must always bear in mind that their act of negligence is equivalent to STUPIDITY and the owner of the establishment MUST ensure that all their workers leave nothing to chance. All screws must be fixed back. Do not be LAZY when doing work because NEGLIGENCE & STUPIDITY can cause serious DISASTER!!!!!!
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your reply. And also thank you to Viki from Customer Care who called me this morning. Herewith I attach a clearer photo, taken this morning with my brand new Olympus XZ-1 camera
See how the Electronic module dangling by its cables, and OBSTRUCTING the free movement of my foot between the accelerator and brake pedals.
As the car maker, you should know how VITAL it is to brake on time, and to anticipate braking distance. But when our foot is trapped like this (sometimes I forget the problem) the braking cannot be done effectively like normal, and may cause ACCIDENTS.
And when accidents happen, NO ONE, I bet the workshop will also deny any wrong doing or admit their negligence and stupidity in carrying out repair works in a very UNPROFESSIONAL manner. If Peugeot France come to know about this, it may have consequences, or become a laughing matter to Malaysians who are LAZY. They are LAZY to do their work properly, LAZY to double check their work, LAZY to ensure that everything has been checked THOROUGHLY. Nothing should be given to chance. You MUST instil this attitude to ALL your workshops and appointed agents IMMEDIATELY!!!!
Make sure they all must deliver QUALITY works.
Unhappy,
— On Thu, 2/9/12, clic wrote:
From: clic
Subject: RE: Shoddy workmanship is VERY Dangerous
Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 8:20 AM
Greetings from Peugeot,
We shall execute the necessary follow-up action and our Customer Service Personnel, will be attending to your request. We shall update you on the status as soon as possible.
We also regret for any inconvenience caused to you and should there be any matter, in which we may have given you the cause to be dissatisfied, please feel free to contact our Peugeot Careline at 1800-88-6292 for assistance.
Thank you
NASIM SDN BHD
CLIENT INTERACTION CENTER (CLiC)
CARELINE : 1-800-88-NAZA (6292)
FAX : +603-5569 0599
Hi Jimmi,
Looks like the reply from Peugeot was the in the same context as your previous reply from them, the same reply they gave when you email about the noise.
Matter to be concern here is, are they really looking into our (Customer) matters or replying emails is the best solution they can give to ease the situation.
Today my partner got her new Peugeot. As i was looking through the new car i found that few things was not supplied by Peugeot. e.g, User Manual (I was searching all night to turn her automatic head lamps and did not succeed) Can you guys help me here.
Furthermore, is it true that the trunk structure (the two angle bar that is holding the trunk when we open it) has only one side fitted with plastic cover while the other is not.(i could see the metal piece which is not of a good finish by Peugeot).
By the way, is there a Peugeot 207 club?
Actually the customer service called me yesterday and fix appointment to re-send the car to Volcare for service
Thats brilliant. Good that they act on it Jimmi.
Guys, do any of you have a 207 user manual? or know where i can acquire for one?
I am really lost on how to get the headlamps to set in Auto Mode. Appreciate you help.
Guys,
I’m planning to sell my black 207 of almost 1 year old and mileage of 15k km, its our 3rd car, condition tip top with accident free. Already installed body kit and leather seat, view to appreciate..
Hi all,
My partner got her Peugeot 207SV last week and sadly to say after 3 days of driving her brand new car, the car had problem with its gear (could not place to ‘P’ after driving), then just a few moments after that the engine temp raised almost to the red line and the engine was really hot. At the same time there was a buzzing noise (zet..zet..zett) when i placed the gear to ‘R’ or ‘D’ position. Is this normal?
I called the sales person, he wasn’t helpful at all. He asks to bring the car to the showroom and he will check. Even I can check the car at that very moment and tell him what’s wrong. Pointless of me taking the car all the way to Glenmerry just to be checked again, I need it to be fixed not checked. This happened on a Saturday evening, their workshop is closed by then.
I then called the Peugeot helpline service and got the car towed. Disappointment came because the car was only 3 days old.
On Monday morning at 10.00 a.m the after sales dept called me up and ask again what the problem is. So I stated there are 3 main factors:
1. Gear can’t be places at ‘P’ position.
2. Radiator temp is high (almost redline)
3. There’s a buzzing sound every time the gear is placed in ‘D’ or ‘R’ position.
I personally took off on that day hoping the car would be ready by 1 p.m. Disappointment hit me again. The car was out of the workshop, they only check in the morning to confirm if the problem stated by me was true. Peugeot said only after 2.30 they will start working on the car, only if they get a reply from the technical team to further investigate on the problem. Mind you, the car was only out of the showroom for about 3 days and already problems occurred. Dint they inspect the car before handing over to their customers?
So I went and see the branch manager to get a better understanding on the situation and complained about his sales person who sold the car. The branch manager helped me as much as possible. Only after seeing him, the car was instantly brought over to the workshop to be fixed. This is very unprofessional of their sales/after sales team. Work was only conducted when I personally came to the office and hustle them. Must I tell them how to do their work?!
The car was fixed at 5.30 p.m after waiting for 4 miserable hours there. But problem no.3 wasn’t fixed yet. When I drove the car, there was no sound when the gear was placed in ‘D’ or ‘R’ position. It only happened after the gear couldn’t be placed at ‘P’. They said its normal but when I checked other 207, they weren’t any noise.
Diagnose from the problem was:
1. Gear lock pin fell due to lose connection.
2. Air bubbles were found in the radiator that caused the radiator temp to increase.
3. This is normal for all new Peugeot 207 (IS THIS TRUE?) anyone experiences this. Peugeot said it’s the sound of gear solenoid.
Peugeot quality in Malaysia is really SHIT, SHIT SHIT !!!!!
In France, they make sure everything is okay and the car
thoroughly tested, run on good and bad roads before handing over
to the customer
To: “peugeot service” , “peugeot malaysia”
Cc: “CM Yap” , “nik anita”
Dear Sirs,
Further to my earlier emails on the above issue, I sent my Peugeot 207 to Volcare on Saturday 11 Feb. 2012 about 9AM. There are two things that surprised me;
1. As I drove into the workshop, I saw a mechanic standing in the
workshop and smoking cigarette openly. This is a workshop where we
have oils, fumes etc. and surely NOT a place where smoking is
allowed! This is a HAZARDOUS area and should be treated with
respect for FIRE SAFETY!
2. The same mechanic attended to me and it took him LESS THAN ONE MINUTE
to put the Electrical module into place and locking it in position!
He did not even need a screwdriver or any tool to do it.
The issue was a very simple one that I can possibly do it myself! But their service men in the first place failed to do it PROPERLY. He did not follow procedures! Maybe he was NOT trained to do service on a Peugeot 207 after all. And that STUPID act of negligence could have caused some drivers to be involved in serious accidents that might kill him.
I insist NASIM to take this issue seriously and warn all your appointed workshops and to take a punitive action with Volcare! Because only when something is done for a careless mistake then only people will start to learn and become MORE SERIOUS!
the mechanic who initially attended to my car was either;
VERY LAZY TO CHECK PROPERLY
WAS NOT TRAINED IN 207 MODEL
HIGH ON DRUG DURING WORK
NOT INTERESTED IN HIS WORK
DO NOT KNOW WORK PROCEDURES
SHOULDN’T HAVE WORKED AS A MECHANIC AT ALL
Just imagine, by his sheer NEGLIGENCE to do the simple procedure of locking the Electronic module, I could have been involved in a serious accident taht could KILL me !!! BRAKE is very, very, very, veryyyyyy important! What happen when our foot is blocked and cannot brake the car?
Servicing a car is NOT A JOKE !!!!
All workshops must do it SERIOUSLY at all times!
Seem like NASIM is not working hard in QC. Lack of investment or quality man power? wonder……
Now i wont service my car at peugeot service centre as i had a bad experience with Puchong Service Centre. They scratch my car while fixing my driver seat problem. Now, i only fix/service my car at Geotauto. Base on Peugeot club, they recommend EURO Tech Auto Works too.
Got my new Peugeot 207. The aircond takes about 10 mins to cool in the morning. The aircond temperature is set to 23.5 & somehow the aircond feels kind of warm in the morning. However, in the evening, after a hot day under the sun, the aircond takes less than about 1 min to cool at the same temperature of 23.5. Is this normal for 207? Is anyone else expereinceing the same thing?
Congratulations Dawn
I have used the 207 for a year now, and initially experienced the same issue with aircond. To start fast cooling you MUST NOT leave the setting on AUTO. Press the AC button and cooling will start immediately. After that press the air direction button so it will blow only to the face. Lastly, press the button for using only INTERNAL recycled air. Happy trying :)
Hi DawnL,
The setting 23.5 you put is quite high if it is in the morning. That is why you could not feel the cool air. Firstly you need to know what the outside temperature is (it can be found under the clock/time on the lcd screen). Normally the temperature in the morning is about 24-26 C (depends on where you are, if Cameron or other highlands, maybe it is about 18-20 C). If you set the auto to 23.5, and the outside temperature is lower than what you have set, warm air will goes in to your car because you have set the temperature to be on 23.5 C (say the outside temp is 23), the auto setting will increase the temperature inside the car so that it will become 23.5 C). In other words, before setting the temp that you require, please check the outside temperature first/groun temp. at that time. For me, in the morning, to ensure cool air goes into the car, I will set the temp to be 20 C (outside temp is 24 C), then after I felt a bit coll, then I will raise the temp to around 21.5 to 22 C.
Happy trying DawnL.
As my 207 front light bulb had burned, i go to Puchong Service centre and try to change it, but they told me it cost rm40++. Do you all know where can we get cheaper spare parts for 207?
hai, i am in a crossroad whether to buy the 207 or the new proton prever. the price are more or less the same. but the prever is much more bigger than the 207. what do u think, guys?
I have been driving the 207 since January 2011 and enjoying every minute of it. Fuel economy is good, I spend only RM50 going to and fro Bkt Antarabangsa to my office near Bkt Bintang 5days/wk, through the traffic jam of Jalan Ampang, Jelatek, Tun Razak.. And going from KL to Kota Bahru is enough on single full tank with 4 people on board and full luggage, with overtaking, and when climbing the hill at Genting Sempah there is no other car that overtakes me! And upon reaching my destination the computer shows the car can go more than 100km before the need for re-feuling.
Compare that to my previous Wira, on full tank on the same route and conditions I MUST fill up at least another RM20 along the way otherwise the tank will be empty and have to push to the petrol kiosk! Mind that the Wira was MANUAL and the 207 is AUTO!
To touch on Weng’s headlight bulb, I think you don’t need to go to Peugeot just for a light bulb, sure they will ‘ketuk’ our head. Or pocket! Surely we can buy bulbs in spare parts or accessory shops that will cost much less. Even the wiper for that matter, just buy any wiper brand out there it will cost much less than Peugeot original wipers.
As for Linda, what car have you been driving all these while? Is it Japanese? Well… getting a continental or European car is something different. It’s a different driving experience altogether. People will look at you differently too.. :) So do you dare to be that ‘different’ lady who drives continental?
As for me I have driven Mazda, Honda, Kancil, Saga, Iswara, Wira, Ford Telstar before. But Peugeot is something different. When you go between 150-170km/hr on Japanese models you will feel the ‘floating’ effect whereas now I feel comfortable with the sure-footedness of the 207.
Japanese car engines are quieter at low RPM & low speed buat as we go faster the engine noise increases more. The 207 engine is less quiet at very low speed but as we go faster the engine noise remains the same, so effectively it is quieter, as no one will go below 100km/hr on highways.. even for ladies like you I suppose?
This is the honest view from my experience. You are free to choose. Japanese models normally have more flashy design/styling with model facelifts happening every year while continentals are more elegant in styling, with very much less facelifts, so it will not look out of fashion fast!
Happy choosing :)
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Weng, u may buy the spare parts at Twinbee auto parts at Jalan Layang-Layang 1, Puchong Jaya. The price of the parts will stop ur breath. haha….but the problem is u hv to install the parts urself.
Linda, i guess the best way to choose is test drive. Once u hv the experience of driving a 207, u would never wanted a preve.
Hi Linda,
Nordin has said it well about the 207. Yes, it will be a different driving experience if you have never driven a continental car. As Mkwing said, do have a test drive of the 207, and maybe you could feel the difference.
Proton Preve is a new car and have a lot of technical improvements on how to handle the car, ie. electronic controls, transmission and engine performance and etc. However, things that I am a bit skeptical about Proton is its technical reliability as well as the suspension system. From my past driving experience of Proton (Wira, Waja, Perdana V6, Gen-2), even though I never bought them (those are own by my siblings), the obvious dissatisfaction came from their suspension and the level of noise from the engine. The suspension is like typical Japanese cars (even for V6) and as Nordin said, the faster you drive the higher the noise came from the engine. But, when you drive the 207, the engine sound remains the same. Also, additional good points on the 207, the car does not have that typical japanese/proton ‘floating’ effect when you drive faster.The steering wheel is a bit stiff but that helps you when the car is driven fast (exceeding 110km/h) which made the handling more stable.
Well, I hope you could made a good choice between Preve and the 207. Just to remind you, the 207 now still comes with 5 year free service and 5 year warranty (unlimited mileage). It is a good deal as you could save up more on those after sales service and warranty.
I remembered the good old days in 1976 when at that time Toyota was famous for its KE20, KE30 and the 2-door hardtop. At that time Peugeot had its 305 model used by some people as taxi. And the 305 was very swift because it was a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car! So when all other Japanese makes were still rear driven, Peugeot was already selling FWD models.
And just look at the 405 model, the styling and the sidelines are actually well advanced of its time. While all other models still use mud flaps, the 405 make away with mud flaps, and there is a small sporty skirt all round and sports rims were fitted as standard. In fact I drove the 405 in 2001 for one year and the BEST feature that I loved about it was the low wind noise and the most COMFORTABLE seats in its class. There is no fatigue at all driving 400km at a stretch! In fact I am still considering getting a 405SRI now as second car.
I am still using my 406 which is already reaching 15 years old. Yes, it is the upgraded version of 405 but still great to drive with low wind noise (good sound proof as well). The seats are comfortable and will follow your body contour after sitting on it for a while. But, maybe it’s time to say goodbye to this ‘Lion King’ to make way to new acqusition of more spacious vehicle to fit in the growing up family members soon. It must be a peugeot too…
Hi Linda,
Both gentlemen had spoken enough of their thoughts of Pug207 & now its depend on you which car suits you better.If you are looking for more space/leg room then 207 does not give much of it, especially the rear seats. However both front seats are relatively OK as the curving at the door give you extra leg room. In term of the boot size it is quite good as comparable to Vios. Before getting my 207 I did a research of a few car model i.e Vios, City & Forte. Space wise Forte is on top followed by City & Vios. 2nd hand value, City & Vios is relatively high.Engine spec, of course the rest can’t beat a Continental. However after a test drive of 207 everything change, the feeling of driving the 207 was totaly different. Thus, be it a Preve or a Peugeot 207 or other Japs or Korean car for that matter, a car must be suited to the driver needs. So, the choice is yours. Please update us if you choose the Lion’s cub as we will welcome you to the club.
Arsenalsan, a 5008 would siuts you with the growing up of family members.
Hi Guys,
Let me share with you my horrible story with the so called French car Peugeot 207 bearing in mind that I have been complaining about my respected car on the very first day of purchasing it. I am a very dissatisfied customer with Peugeot and I am having non-stop problems for over 1 year and till date my problems have not been diagnosed or resolved. It appears the quality of Peugeot has gone down or my luck has run out and I got a lemon. I ends up finding myself wasting my money and time fixing unfixed car.
I bought my car in January 2011 and on the very first day I heard some knocking noise underneath the car. After taking my car for several time to Glenamrie and only after some heated discussion with the service adviser the knocking noise was fixed. It took about 3months for them to fix it. I wasted my time and leaves to travel up and down to that service centre. The Peugeot technicians are not qualified and their service simply sucks and not up to the standard.
Right after that I encountered a squeaking noise from the suspension which is still cant be fixed by the Peugeot’s technicians. I almost took my car for fifth or sixth time for inspection but they still failed to fix it and I gave up on them.
Any one of you experience the same problem? besides this I do experience the wind noise which is very annoying during a long drive. Each time I left my car at the service centre I find there are scratches on my car which obviously shows that they are not Professionals. There will be some added problems that will be contributed by the technician every time I bring back the car from the service centre. For example there are some noise while I brake now but before sending for inspection the car brake seems fine.
I sincerely regret for choosing this model as my 1st car and I would never recommend Peugeot to anyone. Just yesterday I encountered another problem. I couldn’t start it.I doubt its the problem with the battery. The Peugeot’s original battery cost about RM460.00 and service charge to fix it is about RM95.00. Anyone have any idea how much is the actual battery cost?
dear SW,
for normal brand N60 battery, you could find it in spare parts shop around RM130-150.
If for popular branded N60 battery, around RM180-200.
And for N70 battery, all is RM230 and above. And please do buy the “flooded-cell” battery, it is more long lasted. But im not sure whether it would void the car warranty or not.
I guess may be your car is the deficit product. Nazim after sale services juz like shit. It is the shame that Peugeot sold 207 to them.
SW, I got my share of problem with the noise from the antennae which was fixed after a month. But there are no other issues like what you have. So I guess it is just bad luck for you to get that particular unit. I believe it is NOT the car brand but the manufacturing technicians did a poor job. Just like Protons that are assembled by Banglas now.
I would like to advise you as follows;
1. Buy battery yourself from spare parts shop is much, much cheaper
Any workshop can change this battery. No need to go to Peugeot just
for changing a battery.
2. Forward all your complaints to NAZA using this email address;
[email protected]
3. I agree some mechanics are very lousy. Try changing to other service
centres like in Ampang (Volcare) or maybe in Puchong
Dear Mkwing & Jimmi,
Thank you suggestions. I heard that the battery from the normal workshop do not really fit in as the original one for our model. Is this true? However, I have decided not to buy the one from Peugeot. Peugeot Glenmarie charging RM460.00 on battery alone.
I think Nasim simply screwing Peugeot’s quality with their poor service in M’sia. I am seriously thinking of informing the matter by writing to Peugeot in France and also going to take legal proceedings against the Peugeot over here.
Dear Mkwing & Jimmi,
Thank you for your suggestions. I heard that the battery from the normal workshop do not really fit in as the original one for our model. Is this true? However, I have decided not to buy the one from Peugeot. Peugeot Glenmarie charging RM460.00 on battery alone.
I think Nasim simply screwing Peugeot’s quality with their poor service in M’sia. I am seriously thinking of informing the matter by writing to Peugeot in France and also going to take legal proceedings against the Peugeot over here.
Bravo SW!
Way to go man! Go tell Peugoet France EVERYTHING. I had wanted to do the same when I had that antennae noise problem, but I couldn’t get the France Peugeot email address.
We are the consumer, and we pay through our pocket to get at least a decent continental car. Go on write to them. We support you all the way. As consumer we have NOTHING TO LOSE. You can even go to the small claims tribunal. Just go ahead… do everything you can
i having my 207 since CYN,
really headache car.
sorry my bibi, only she can tahan the defect.
remark below problem happened together when 2500km
1)brake peddle noise >send to SC puchong put grease but not solve, i already tell them how to do but final still problem
2)front drive shaft noise> send SC twice, second time only solve.
3)wheel base noise crack sound> i think suspension system sound, i want send to SC they say want to book …..wat the hack.
i suggest peugeot need to have complaint service center.
sorry to tell peugeot, we buy ur car not beli sayur uncle aunte, we are pro ppl all engineer, excutive , doctor…etc pls don’t give stupid reason.
Please dont go to Puchong service centre.
Hi all,
It seems that some of the workshops did not fulfill the aspiration of the company. They did not provide the best service to the customers. And for some of us who got the lemon, it waS SO UNFORTUNATE AND i BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BRING UP THIS MATTER TO THE RELEVANT AUTHORITY (Automobile Peugeot France). This is a major attitude problem of some of our technical assistant/mechanics in Malaysia and it is not acceptable if Nasim just close their eyes on this issue. However, there are still some dedicated technical asisstants/mechanics out there working in Nasim Service Center. ie Ipoh Service Center. It is not the car but the people working there should be responsible on their products which they sold to the customer as highlighted by Marcus, engineers and other professionals.
Nasim actually deal with some outside workshops to become an authorized service workshop for peugeot cars. In all probabilities, the mechanics are not well trained to handle peugeot cars, that’s why the shoddy workmanship. These workshop only want $$$ they don’t care a damn about holding up to peugeot expected quality of service. I have been trying to email peugeot France but can’t get their email address. Please somebody who get hold of their email, just shoot them with every single bullet that you have. Nasim should know that it is not just selling the car and making bold claims about the lousy service that will bring customers and raking in millions, but after that nasim will lose in the end, no repeat customers and bad reputation
Hi Owners of 207,
I am Anita from Ipoh. i’m here because I am considering the 207 but after reading all post here Esp, Jimmi’s good and bad experiences with Peugeot, I am now feeling very undecisive.
Therefore wish to ask all owners for help to answer my 1 question,
QUESTION: DO YOU REGRET BUYING AND OWNING THE 207 ? (which seems to have problem with manufacturing faults and trouble with service centres BUT GIVES EXTREMELY PLEASURABLE DRIVING EXPERIENCE)
I CONSIDER 207 because
1)I Travel A lot , like Ipoh KL 3 times a week, so the attractive promo of (5 yrs warranty & 5 yrs free service) sounds good.
I called up IPOH Peugeot they say ‘unlimited milage ‘-free service, parts& labour but KL HQ salesman say Limit 100000KM or 5 yrs whichever first.
2) “I want a car that wont make me spend so much on repairing and maintaining” because my current car4 yrs old Myvi 1.3 ez have reverse gear problem and Perodua want Rm12k to RM 16k to change Auto Gearbox,which i cant afford.
207 Owners, Please advice, as your words are extremely precious to me and i will digest it thoroughly before i make decision. Thank you.
Anita..
That is the same name as my sister in law! :)
If I were you I will get the Proton Preve now. The overall review for Preve is very good, plus you get 138 horse power compared to 97 horse power for the 207, and from the SAME 1.6 engine capacity. That means you will save much on fuel on all your trips. Forget about Peugeot. Maybe you can buy the 508 later if you like. Thanks to the Preve Turbo engine that gives you MORE power but with less fuel. And the built in GPS sure looks good in the Preve. Not to mention the 4 disc brakes all round! Just do away with 207, as the small but annoying factory defects will surely drag you from the 3 trips/week to & fro KL
Hi Anita…
Well, there is pro and cons of any cars in the market today. Just to share with you, Nasim after Sales Center in Ipoh is good. My experience with them for the last one year was not dissapointing at all. They did excellent service job and did assist me very well with the maintenance of the car. Already clocked in 30,000 km last week and went for my 3rd free service with them. So far, the car hasn’t got any serious problem. Problems that I had for the past 12 months – 1) Volume knob of the radio not working – they took only less than 10 minutes to fix it; 2) Defect on steering wheel – got new replacement immediately; 2) Flat battery – Since the battery is under warranty, got brand new replacement (cause – the battery was the older type, black color. the newer one is in silver color); 3) Brake Fluid level flow indicator flashing when the car went uphill – cause low brake fluid due to the wear and tear of the brake pads. This has caused the fluid to flow further into the braking system, and to fix it, the technical supervisor just top up the fluid level. Everything is solved. You know what, this car has been in many places and used to long distance journey, ie Ipoh – JB, Ipoh to KB via the East – West highway (Grik, with the S function it has become the king of the hill – can easily overtake other cars due to its power when using the ‘S’ mode).
So, my experience so far is good with the car and the technical assistance from Nasim Ipoh service center. Just to add some more, I have been driving a Peugeot for nearly 16 years now and like the handling of the car very much.
Preve is a new car and the performance has not been tested yet especially the engine capacity (yes it is much better than 207), the new electronic devices (the Iintegrated Circuit (IC) reliability) and the suspension system is not the same as what continental car can offer you. Have been driving my old 406 with still sheer pleasure coz the suspension is very good, not forget to mention on the quality of the seats. Really comfortable. I have not tested drive the Preve yet. Hopefully, the suspension system is good. If you have to be in a car and travel many times, I believe comfort driving should be the priority and of course the quality of the car and its after sales service.
Okay, hope you will make the good choice in either choosing the 207, Preve or any other brands. All the best to you…
Hi again Anita…
Just to add an experience i encountered a couple of weeks ago (not the car problem). On my way back from JB to KL, the time is around 10pm on the PLUS highway. I felt the rear right tyre hit a hard object on the road with a speed approximately 120- 130 km/h. Due to the hit, maybe the tyre started to puncture slowly and suddenly I felt the car started to vibrate on that high speed. Only then I realized that the tyre might be punctured and started to slow down and drove to the left side and eventually stopped safely about 15 km to the Pedas-Linggi exit.
But, what I am trying to point out here is about the safety in the car. Even though the car was in a high speed, when the tyre started to burst, the car could still be handled very well and did not sway. The moment the vibration became very strong, only then I realized the tyre has already malfunctioned. Thus, it has proven on the stability of handling the car even though one of the tyre was not functioning during high speed.
A point to consider , maybe….
Make sure you MUST test drive the 207 and also Preve. And not only drive on straight road, but go for winding roads, bad roads and also going uphill. Yes I also like the ‘Sports’ switch on the 207 but we seldom go uphill anyway.
If you really want the 207, make the sales manager SIGN ON PAPER that they will give you a courtesy car if you have to send in your 207 for repairs due to manufacturing defects! This is very important otherwise you will be stranded during the repair works that may take months!
Agree with you on the courtesy car agreement with the sales manager upfront Nordin. Some people may have got a car which has so many manufacturing defects and some will not. It happens not only with Proton but to other car manufacturer as well The best to get assurance from the authorized seller on this issue.
Good morning everybody… especially to Anita,
So Anita.. have you test driven both cars? Have you decided which one? We are also anxious to hear your review.. if you have chosen the Preve, we would like to hear your driving experience with this new model.
Hi all,
Just want to reconfirm. Anyone received call from Nasim Peugeot HQ informing that buyers who purchased the 207 with 3 years warranty (or 100,000 km) will get additional 2 years warranty with unlimited mileage. The person said she will send a brochure on this thru email, but not receive anything yet. Went to nasim’s website and they said the warranty now comes with 3 + 2 years with unlimited mileage for those who are affected. New buyer will get automatically 5 year warranty, unlimited mileage.
Yes i did but i did not receive any email as well. What they mean by for those who are affected?
Between can anyone recommend a service centre that provides better service besides Glenmarie? I am just too sick taking the car to fix the same defects for countless time.
I am just feeling so unlucky for getting this piece of metal which not worth it.
Its really sad to make the monthly loan installment for a car which is not satisfying at all. Its such a burden and i bet at least Proton might not have the silly defects. Thank you to Nasim and the service centre for making my life miserable. Can anyone suggest what shall I do with this piece?
Hello Anita, Have you decided whether to get Preve or 207? We are anxious to know your choice! Before deciding, see this picture here; :)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=417567234922823&set=a.103930959619787.8205.100000086506684&type=1&permPage=1
Hi all,
Got the email yesterday… So those who have been shorlisted should grab this opportunity. At least the additional 2 years warranty could extend our ‘peace of mind’ on the car. Below is the email:
Dear Sir/Mdm;
Nasim Peugeot Extended Warranty Program
Congratulations! You have been shortlisted for this program.
As spoken to you over the phone, we hereby attached together the brochure for this program. This program extends your current original 3 years and 100,000km factory backed warranty by Nasim Peugeot for another 2 more years while giving you unlimited mileage giving you more enjoyable driving and confidence over your Peugeot vehicle. To proceed, you need to fax to us 2 sets of document to check your qualification. Promotions end 30th June 2012.
Documents required for this program.
1.Service Log Book Service Record page.
2.Front page Car Registration Card(Geran Kereta)
Our fax no:03 79551921
E-mail:[email protected]
Kindly contact us at 03 79551917 for further enquiries.
Abd. Mutalib@Tab Abdul Kadir
Just to share on proton Preve owners:
Got so much problem with the Preve…sigh..Hoping these do not happen to other forumers.
1. When moving in the morning, the engine rev is up and down like it is going to die off, then start again for at least 5-6 times, rocking like a boat. My neighbour asked me whether i am alright…
2. The gearbox light is not connected, it is totally dark
3. The USB port is not working – cannot detect any external USB device
4. Driving at 60km/h and you will hear loud whistle from the back windows and it will get progressively louder as you speed up. When at 100km/h you have to shout to be heard.
5. When raining at night, the brake will jam. Only after driving a few meters, that it will released with a loud thud. It has happened at least 6-7 times in the last few weeks, after a heavy rain.
6. The windows on the driver side rattle badly when going through uneven road.
Hopefully all these will be solved during 1st service.
The rest is here: http://www.preveclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&p=960&sid=851ea13a27ab5b498d86e94f52509a4d#p960
preve vs 207? The most important point here, Proton after sales and service center far better than Naza Peugeot. No worry about 1st production defect as they will encounter that faster and will recall if there is any problem.
Hi,
My 207 also have wind noise at both driver n front passenger side when driven 60km/h onwards. It kinda sounds like wind passing through a straw. The 4 doors also have rattle noise when drive pass uneven road surface. The service centre at Balakong manage to fix 3 doors, but not the door at driver side(i guess they just tighten all doors bcuz the doors are bit hard to close after repairing). Dashboard rattle noise fixed after they dismantle dashboard n seal it back. For my car wind noise, the sc said is caused by antenna, yet they haven’t change a new n proper one for me. Wasted 7 days leaving my car at there.
From: “Mohd. Nordin Abbas” View contact details
To: “peugeot malaysia” , “peugeot service”
Dear Sirs,
Car registration WUT 2070. My Peugeot 207 fails me on the BRAKE SYSTEM. Attached please find the copy of complain when the car was sent to Volcare Ampang branch on Saturday 25/08/2012.
While driving on high speed on the highway, the brake did not respond positively. When the brake pedal was pressed, it goes deep inside. There is a feeling of “LOOSENESS” in the brake pedal. Only when it hits near the bottom then the brake started to engage, but in an uncontrollable manner, often jolting the car occupants by surprise. The chain of events are as follows;
Date&time Speed Location/situation
“”"”"”"”"”"” “”"”"”"” “”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
15/08/2012 >120km/hr KL to KB trip, approaching Gua Musang
6:30PM Negotiating a right bend, behind a car
24/08/2012 70km/hr Going uphill to Ukay Perdana, left bend
12:30PM Avoiding a Kancil encroaching into my lane
26/08/2012 100km/hr Puncak Alam to Shah Alam road, downhill
8:27PM Approaching a RED traffic light
I sent the car to VOLCARE in Ampang on Saturday 25/08/2012 and the foreman En. Razak tested the car with me. He drove at slow speed around the area, pressing the brake every 10m distance (approx.) but could not see the problem. He told me the brake fluid was not leaking from the system. As there were so many customers on that day, he told me to sign the service sheet and come back on Monday. But I can’t do that because we all work on weekdays. Perhaps the SERVICE WORKSHOPS must work on weekends and take their off-day on a weekday instead so as to serve the customers better!
It seems to me that VOLCARE thinks that serving the other customers take priority over my 207 brake problem (which is a huge SAFETY concern) that can result in disastrous accident involving my life!
I have driven many other cars before like Mazda 626 old model, Honda Accord old model, Proton Saga, Proton Wira, Peugeot 405SRI, Ford Telstar, Kancil, and currently I still drive the Proton Iswara model 1995 but all these cars NEVER ever exhibit brake problem such as this. The Peugeot 207 is an up-to-date model and also the Car of the year in Japan, but this brake problem really scares me as the customer as it can lead to a DISASTER!
I urge Peugeot Malaysia to check this brake problem issue with ALL workshops and also to check with Peugeot FRANCE to see if anyone else have reported similar problem and how they solved the issue. Could this be caused by
1. Air pocket in the brake circuit?
2. Brake master pump failure?
3. Electronics problem like ABS, EBD or EBA sensors?
Your immediate response would be most appreciated
Sincerely,
Mohd.Nordin Abbas
019-246 2893
Wow.. Teruk jgak kalo masalah brek macam ni. Diorang ada respon x email ni?
Nordin, were your brakes wet when the system fail?
I got my car in mid May 12. It was problematic on day 1 and more problems starts appearing as I use it. The worst was last evening when the brake locked after I went over a puddle of water quickly.
Just to share my car issues:
1) jerky when press oil pedal – SC changed spring and lowered the car
2) wind sound – changed antenna but no improvement
3) rattling door when going over uneven road – not solved yet
4) loose wind strip – already one month but still waiting for stock
5) noisy door when opening and closing – already one month but still waiting for parts
5) remote key not working in the second month – change battery
6) the screen didnt shut down after swith off the engine -first notice three days ago but problem didnt reoccur. Just have to keep my finger cross it doesnt happen again
7) scratches all over body – SC polished and became worst. Now already one month but no news from them even thou pictures were taken.
8) last eveving the BRAKE felt hard and I cant press it down.
9) whistling sound when turning the steering quickly as in making a U turn. Happen after the column was changed by SC
10) salesman wanted to charge me RM450 for a running number. I got angry and threaten to cancel my order and forfeit the 1%. He offered to absorb and bought the number at only rm210. But he changed his mind and didnt give me the full tank of petrol when I took the car.
Yesterday I told the careline guy tat my brake locked but was assured it is safe to drive. Can someone out there tell me IS IT SAFE?
sigh…as i was thinking of buying this car for myself..it has this brake issue plak ye.lucky for me bump to this site…. so it is a no no right?
Emm….Not to say that the brake fails in every unit of 207. So far, everything is good with mine. Have to do emergency brake several times with no failures (ranging from 100km/h to 0km/h). It’s difficult to say the car is not safe. I believe the after sales service need to be more professional in conducting their service jobs or complaints from the owner. Also, the continuous problems maybe due to the defect production of the car and this maybe due to some assembly line operators that may have not the up-to-date competencies in doing their tasks. Hopefully, Nasim could look into this and improve their standards be it during the assembly or after sales service. All together, this model, I mean the hatchback 3 and 5 doors, station wagon, cc and maybe some sedans have been sold for 2 millions unit worlwide bwtween 2005 and 2012 where productions in Europe has totally discontinued in 2012 to give way to the new 208 which I believe will be in the Malaysian market in 4/5 years time.
The fog light of my 207 sedan had been broken. I tried to replace 1, do you all know how much it cost? it is RM 1,500! I asked the SC and Careline, how much for others model such as 308, 508…it is ard RM200++. It is ridiculous right?
- On Wed, 10/31/12, Mohd. Nordin Abbas wrote:
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your FAST response. Vicky called me at 5:30PM yesterday however the follow up plan was NOT to my expectation. I would prefer a more professional approach be taken to resolve the issue. Vicky just told me to bring the car to a NASIM workshop in Balakong for the mechanics to CHECK the car. This is NOT good enough, as this car had been checked many times by Mr. Razak at Volcare Ampang.
Just normal checking with 10 minutes of slow driving would NOT reveal the problem. I drove from KL to KB for 6-8 hours before the brake bottoming happened only ONCE! You don’t expect the mechanics spend the whole day driving the car just to observe this rare phenomenon of the brake bottoming, do you?
Your senior engineers should get in touch with me, rather than Vicky who is just manning the service desk. The engineer should see the problem objectively rather than allow Vicky to assume that Volcare could have probably installed incorrectly!
Had Volcare installed the brake master pump incorrectly, I would have returned to them within a week! But the car was fine before it happens again after ONE MONTH!
It is WRONG for Vicky to assume that Volcare might have installed the master pump incorrectly, because Volcare is an appointed, approved Peugeot workshop. You should have confidence in Volcare to do such simple job like fixing a brake master pump!
Your engineers can work by ISOLATING the OTHER (electronics) systems in conjunction with the brake, such as the ABS, EBD and EBA. Let the brake operate by itself, if it does not happen again after say… 6 months or so, reconnect the electronics system one by one, each system may take 3-6 months for proper monitoring.
And what have you done to the replaced brake master pump? Was it simply thrown into the dustbin? Have your team of engineers examined the pump properly? Was there really any rubber seal broken or loose? My wild guess is that the brake master pump was alright!
Do you have a TEST CAR in the Peugeot service centre? You should have a test car for all models sold. Serious life safety issues such as BRAKE FAILURE must be investigated properly by a team of professional and experienced engineers. The supposed problematic and replaced components should be fitted into the test car and driven around to see real problem under DYNAMIC conditions.
It is not good just to let either Vicky or maybe Faradila to call me and tell me to send the car to NAZA workshop for checking again and again! Peugeot must have a proper follow up system for FIRST TIME problem, and also for RECURRING problem like my case. Recurring problem should be treated DIFFERENTLY.
Mr. Razak of Volcare Ampang, with more than 20 years experience as a car mechanic, he had tested my car a few times but still we cannot see the problem happening during the few minutes of testing. Peugeot engineers must come out with a structured PLAN on how to solve this seemingly simply but VERY ANNOYING and also dangerously LIFE THREATENING issue!
Let me be frank here, I work with a French company, and I thought it is just proper for me to drive a French car too, and certainly I am pleased with the 207 performance albeit the brake issue. The 207 is responsive and predictable, with high speed stability and fairly quiet, comfort ride. Hill climbing ability is very good compared to other makes of the same class. If Peugeot Malaysia thinks it is good to hide this problem from Peugeot France, I will tell them myself, no problem with that. I can forward this email to my friend in France and the cost of a local mail is nothing.
Please call me at my land line 03-2055 5608, because the reception for mobile phone inside buildings are not good.
Looking forward,
Mohd. Nordin Abbas
:’(
— On Tue, 10/30/12, clic wrote:
From: clic
Subject: RE: WUT 2070 brake bottoming happens again
To: “Mohd. Nordin Abbas”
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 5:07 PM
Dear Mr Nordin,
Greetings from Nasim Peugeot.
A very good day to you & we do hope all is well.
We are writing to you from the Client Interaction Centre (CLiC). We acknowledge receiving your recent feedback and wish to inform that we are in the midst of investigation.
An officer will be in touch with you until all matters are resolved.
We would like to reassure you that we are seriously looking into this and are committed to a quick resolution.
We wish you a pleasant day ahead & should you have any further matters, kindly contact our Peugeot Careline at 1800-88-6292 (Mon – Fri : 9am – 6pm)
NASIM SDN BHD
CLIENT INTERACTION CENTER (CLiC)
CARELINE : 1-800-88-NAZA (6292)
FAX : +603-5569 0599
From: Mohd. Nordin Abbas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October, 2012 10:18 AM
To: clic; peugeot malaysia
Cc: nik amella; nik anita
Subject: WUT 2070 brake bottoming happens again
Dear Sirs,
I just couldn’t believe this happening again, exactly one month after the master brake pump was changed at Volcare Ampang on 25/09/2012.
It happened on 25/10/2012 at 12:30AM (midnight) mid way from Grik to Jeli on the East-West highway.
The speed was about 80km/h and I was about to overtake another car. I changed to 3rd. gear but the car in front suddenly braked to avoid some pot hole, so I braked too but the 207 brake bottomed down. The car occupants were jolted when the brake couldn’t be controlled.
It was very scary, if anything happened at that time, in the middle of the thick jungle! Really scary!
The full history thus far is as follows;
Date&time Speed Location/situation
“”"”"”"”"”"” “”"”"”"” “”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
15/08/2012 >120km/hr KL to KB trip, approaching Gua Musang
6:30PM Negotiating a right bend, behind a car
24/08/2012 70km/hr Going uphill to Ukay Perdana, left bend
12:30PM Avoiding a Kancil encroaching into my lane
26/08/2012 100km/hr Puncak Alam to Shah Alam road, downhill
8:27PM Approaching a RED traffic light
16/09/2012 60km/hr Jalan Seri Permaisuri, Cheras
Straight road, behind another vehicle
25/10/2012 80km/hr Gerik to Jeli East-West Highway
12:30AM Changed to 3rd gear, about to overtake
Midnight another car
Frankly I lost confidence in the 207. No wonder I saw many people sold their 207, some of them are used less than a year! I believe mine is NOT the only case, it happens again just ONE MONTH after the brake master pump was changed. Surely these parts are NOT Made in China????
NASIM/NAZA must seriously look into this issue and I have some urgent questions and suggestions below;
1. What have you done to the brake master pump that was cahnged? Did your
team of engineers even look at it? They should have checked the unit and
see if it was really faulty, rubber seals broken etc? They must come to a
conclusion and determine whether the brake master pump was REALLY at
fault! If it is not, then the brake bottoming must be attributed to other
parameters. This is the REAL work of engineers, they should not just sit in
the office and sign papers like managers
2. Did you forward this problem to Peugeot France? I would like to see
what they have replied. If you have NOT told them, I will do it myself.
3. Due to this same problem recurring every so often, I doubt if the problem is
due to the master brake pump itself (unless it was Made in China, of
course!) otherwise I strongly believe there are some other associated
electronics systems contributing to the issue. Maybe the ABS pump or
something else?
4. I urge NAZA/NASIM to take this car into your workshop, (not appointed
workshop like Volcare) and make a thorough check of other systems like
the ABS, or EBD (for example). But please provide me with a courtesy car,
as the loss of use of my car will hinder me from going to and fro my work
place.
FC, my brake was not wet when the problem happened.